How Good Are The New IITs

Proposed Main Building of IIT Bhubaneshwar

In 2008, Government of India added eight new Indian Institute of Technology (IITs). There were earlier seven IITs before. Out of these eight new IITs, six started function in 2008 itself and two started operation from 2009. IT-BHU was converted as IIT (BHU) Varanasi in 2012. I’m summarizing the establishment years of these institutes in chronological order below:

  • 1951: IIT Kharagpur
  • 1958: IIT Bombay
  • 1959: IIT Kanpur and IIT Madras
  • 1963: IIT Delhi (founded in 1961 as The College of Engineering & Technology)
  • 1994: IIT Guwahati
  • 2001: IIT Roorkee (Founded in 1847, renamed as Thomason College of Civil Engineering in 1853 and University of Roorkee in 1948)
  • 2008: IIT Bhubaneswar, IIT Gandhinagar, IIT Hyderabad, IIT Jodhpur, IIT Patna, IIT Ropar
  • 2009: IIT Indore and IIT Mandi
  • 2012: IIT (BHU) Varanasi (Founded in 1919 as BENCO; renamed as IT-BHU, by joining three institutes BENCO, TECHNO and MINMET running under BHU)

The eight new IITs were started within an Eleventh Five Year Plan (2007-2012) to develop Higher Education and Research in India. During this period five IISER, an NISER, seven IIMs, ten NITs, six AIIMS, seven NIPER and many other institutes. All these are getting huge funding from the Government of India. Established with a vision to develop India as a Super Power.

As per new IITs are concerned, all new IITs are awaiting completion of their permanent campus construction work. However, they are running full-fledged within limited strength from their transit campuses taken on rent. All are being mentored by old IITs.

Academics

Even though they don’t have permanent campuses these institutes have healthy infrastructure and running like any other engineering college. Initially, these institutes were getting faculties from their mentor IITs. However, with time they have full-time faculty. But, many of the post of full-time faculties at these institutes are still vacant. But, the lack of faculty is not the problem of only new IITs. Even old IITs have vacant positions of full-time faculties.

The academic standard of new IITs is better than any just opened engineering college. They have many faculties from old IITs or NITs.

Courses started at new IITs are still not as vast in numbers as old IITs. Most of them have started with B Tech courses in Computer Sciece, Mechanical, Electrical, Civil and Chemical. However, once they shift to their permanent campuses both several courses and intake per courses will increase.

Infrastructure

Standards of new IITs, even though they are running from transit campuses are not compromised. Some of the new IITs are exception, rest are giving healthy environment in rented accommodation in some institutes. However, it is expected most of them will shift to their permanent campuses within next two to three years.

Student Life

IITs are popular in developing a student at its best. They not just excel in the regular career. Instead, they excel in other fields too. The craze for IIT is so much as it develops the personality and boost confidence of students to do well in their life.

All the new IITs organize cultural or tech fests and activities just as regular IITs. Still, a lot of development will see once they get their own auditoriums at permanent campus.

Placements

Placement is the most important section that you would be looking for. The good news is new IITs are doing well in this section. Even though they don’t have the facilities that many not renowned but established colleges have. They have the most important thing, quality students. Students at new IITs are being selected from the premier exam earlier IIT JEE and now JEE Advanced. So, even though these institutes are yet to set up themselves, companies are coming and giving healthy package.

As per Times of India, I’m presenting the placement conditions of these institutes in 2013. It also presents faculty condition at these institutes.

Name Posts for faculties Posts vacant Placement last year Lowest package Highest package
IIT Bhubaneswar

90

17

92%

3.5 L

11.5 L

IIT Gandhinagar

90

14

91%

Didn’t disclose

Didn’t disclose

IIT Hyderabad

105

4

85%

3.5 L

34 L

IIT Indore

90

13

85%

4.5 L

17.58 L

IIT Jodhpur

90

42

79%

3.75 L

17 L

IIT Mandi

90

41

88%

4.75 L

18 L

IIT Patna

90

19

87%

4.5 L

16.3 L

IIT Ropar

90

38

88%

3.75 L

63 L

This year the placement are going to be little bad as market condition is bad and PSUs are not coming for campus recruitment. But, these are going to affect both new, old IITs and other colleges too.

These institutes are better in placement than many regional level good engineering colleges. But, not better than NITs now. They are well established and have good connection in industry. Gradually, it will develop.

Final Verdict on New IITs

In my last article, Good College or Good Branch. I kept the ranking of these institutes in Tier 3 colleges. It is to be taken into consideration after old NITs for admissions. However, once these shifted to their permanent campus. Sooner or later it is going to surpass many old NITs.

If you like the above article, I’m giving links for articles written on similar topic by me:

  1. Good College or Good Branch
  2. When Should I Start Preparing for IIT?
  3. JEE: Should I Take A Drop?
  4. How to Prepare for JEE Mains After Appearing for 12th Board
  5. Most Suitable Date for JEE (Main) Online Test
  6. New Pattern: What is JEE?
  7. IIT JEE: What should be Strategy for Partial Droppers?
  8. How to Prepare for IIT JEE?
  9. Kota: Paradise for IIT JEE Aspirants
  10. Role of Coachings in IIT JEE selection
  11. Hopes Beyond IIT
  12. IIT JEE: What should be the strategy for repeaters?

Good College or Good Branch

Decision Time: Counselling at the Time of Admission

Should I go for Good College or Good Branch. It is a dilemma which is faced by every single student after clearing engineering entrance examination. Even if student gets selected for admission to any IIT. This dilemma is faced by them. Whether they should go by best IIT or best branch at average level IIT. Ever since I have started giving tips to engineering aspirants, every year after entrance result. I get query related with this dilemma.

There are 119 different courses available in JEE Advanced 2014. Some of these are very much popular and known. But, most of us don’t know scope, syllabus, use of most of the courses in the list. Every person has different opinion about best and worst IITs. The dilemma comes as it is going to decide the future of the student. Parents want their children to study the best possible stream once the results are out. Definition of best possible stream would be “A Stream which will let their kid to a secure, easy to find job, with a handsome salary and have growth opportunity”. Only problem is very few persons know in detail about each stream and depending on the interest and ability of a student, which could be the best stream for a particular student.

Yes, ranking of stream will change for every student. Some may find computer interesting, some may find aviation interesting. One can’t do well without having an interest. But, here there is one more problem. I’m not referring towards interest as passion towards something. I’m referring towards a branch whose syllabus may suit the interest of a student. It may happen that someone who is brilliant in chemistry and comparatively weak in Mathematics have passion to be aeronautical engineer. But, aeronautical may not be a better branch for him/her to excel in his career.

It is very hard to find such a person who can guide a student perfectly, taking into consideration likes and dislikes of student for a particular topic. It is advisable to talk to as many counselor as possible to know about choice of course and college which you can get in a particular branch. But, just take advise, decision about order of preference should be of student. For admission into IITs, the following attached PDF file (Jee Advanced Counseling Brochure 2013) is send to successful candidates. It have a major part giving details about each and every branch or courses available in IITs. It should be read thoroughly to understand structure, syllabus, applicability and scope of a branch. Depending on the strength, command and interest of a student and its use for a particular branch, ordered list of branches with college should be made.

Some streams are good or specialty of a particular IIT. This would mean you would get best faculty, resources, lab instrument and scope. So, once you have understanding about your preferential list of branches or streams. Get information about best IIT to study the course from. You can get such information by getting in contact with few IITians.

For Non-IIT Candidates

Till now, I gave course selection tips only for those who are successful in JEE Advanced. Now, for those who have to select course and college after clearing JEE Mains or state engineering entrances, the path is not so easy. They can either go for best possible college with not-so-popular branch or best branch in an average college or below average college. It is a general consensus to go for the best branch and not best college. However, I always believe to go for the best college in a good city for whatsoever branch one can get. I’m going to explain various reasons why I believe so. First, let me explain how branch is less important and college is more.

Is Branch Really so Important

Would you go to any college for a Good Branch

Every Field Has Good Scope

If we talk about scope of the course, nearly all the field or branch have good scope, leaving behind newly introduced branch. Student from every branch can excel to top and get high salary. Not so popular branch like aerospace or marine has very high average salary compared to a mechanical or electrical. Most popular branch computer science have a very less average salary as it is over-crowded.

Future is Unknown

No one knows till when the job opportunity will be flooded in IT sector. Right now, even pass-outs from other branches are joining IT sector as supply of quality engineers is less than demand and it is not so hard for engineers from different stream to switch to IT field. Do you know in 90’s Mechanical or electrical were much more popular branch than computer science? Many engineers who could not get in mechanical and get C.S. in 90’s get to the top position in their company after IT boom.

Love of Student for a Branch is Illusion

I already explained this point above while explaining for IIT counselling. If a student loves to work on computer, it does not mean he can find interest in Computer Science. Computer Science requires sound logical and analytical ability. Many a times students desires to choose a branch just for sake of affection to its applicability.

Sector Change

My brother is a Mechanical Engineer from IIT Kanpur. But, he is working in a Top IT company. Many of my friends with various streams of engineering are with me working in Insurance Company. Many bureaucrats are engineers with no use of their engineering knowledge. The point is you don’t know whether you are going to work in the same sector you are choosing as your engineering branch.

Importance of Better College

Better Resources

Getting education from NIT Trichy is always going to be better than NIT Jamshedpur. One will get better professors, better labs, better environment at a better college. Quality of education always play better role at key positions in life. It gives value to your résumé.

It may be given examples that a college which not even comparable to premium IIT like Manipal has alumnus at key positions of Microsoft and Nokia. However, both of them Satya Nadella or Rajeev Suri are at Managerial position which is a skill not honed by Manipal. On an average, a student from a better college have much more chance of achieving successes quickly.

Better connections

Even if one gets not so popular branch in a better college, he/she may have on an average better friends or better connections from college. I’m not saying it helps in progressing in life. But, it do help in tough times. Every one wants influential friend network.

Better Environment

Better college may give opportunity for better opportunity in extra-curricular activity. Even many prepare for civil services GATE, GRE, CAT etc. while being in engineering college. This gives them better ambiance for preparing for such competition.

Chance of Better Branch Change After First Year

Nearly every college has an option to change branch at the end of first year based on their performance in first year. This is a very huge benefit. My brother got 2400 AIR in IIT JEE 2002 and got 5 years integrated MSc Mathematics and Scientific Computing at IIT Kanpur. Based on his excellent performance in first year, he was able to shift his branch to B. Tech Mechanical after first year.

So, one have a chance to upgrade the branch if he/she is not satisfied at the end of first year if he/she went for average branch in better college. Those who went for best branch don’t get the chance to upgrade to better college ever.

Ranking of Colleges

I’m just giving an outlook about college ranking. However, actual ranking may differ the pattern given by me.

  1. Premier Ones: Old IITs and BITS Pilani
  2. Tier 1: NITs and State Bests
  3. Tier 2: New IITs
  4. Tier 3: Have a name
  5. Tier 4: Not so popular

As already told, it is just an outline, actual ranking may not follow the same pattern.

You can go for not so popular branch till Tier 2 colleges as better college. Till Tier 3 you may look for branches like mechanical, electrical, electronics as better college. If you are getting Tier 4 college, which gives some placement, go for only Computer Science. These colleges gets very less core companies other than IT for placements.

I’m sure the my view point would definitely help a lot towards easing your dilemma about Good College or Good Branch. It would be good to share your ideas and queries by giving comment below. I’m you would like to share your thinking.

If you like the above article, I’m giving links for articles written on similar topic by me:

  1. How Good Are The New IITs
  2. When Should I Start Preparing for IIT?
  3. JEE: Should I Take A Drop?
  4. How to Prepare for JEE Mains After Appearing for 12th Board
  5. Most Suitable Date for JEE (Main) Online Test
  6. New Pattern: What is JEE?
  7. IIT JEE: What should be Strategy for Partial Droppers?
  8. How to Prepare for IIT JEE?
  9. Kota: Paradise for IIT JEE Aspirants
  10. Role of Coachings in IIT JEE selection
  11. Hopes Beyond IIT
  12. IIT JEE: What should be the strategy for repeaters?

When Should I Start Preparing for IIT?

I remember back in 2006, IIT JEE administration introduced a stringent rule which allows maximum two attempts for an aspirant to get into IIT JEE. The step was taken in order to curb the number of students who get into IIT by preparing again and again for 3, 4 or even 5 years. It was infusing not the actual talented persons in the premier institutes. But, those who practice the pattern for more than 2 years and then, show their excellence over junior by way of extra practice. It was always criticized that the pattern and syllabus of IIT JEE is not suitable to be covered within a span of 2 years. But, there are always a lot many students who used to get in IIT JEE in first attempt. Proper guidance, proper time management and dedication towards study is ultimate requirement other than primary requirement of a sharp mind to get in first attempt.

However, the step affected the coaching institution in a big way. As the number of aspirant taking part in the exam reduced drastically for 2007. A new concept came in the market. It was to be The Early Bird. Aim early, take time and then take the shot. It was to start preparing for IIT from 9th standard itself rather than 11th. The concept was not totally new. I remember in 1999 when I was in 9th standard Brilliant Tutorial had a Foundation Correspondence Course for IIT JEE. But, it was not a popular course. Once the director of my coaching class told me that he gets 1 or 2 student each year who comes to join the coaching class to prepare for IIT JEE, where more than 500 students used to enroll in a year. The idea was not so popular as why to put pressure before 10th, if you have enough time after 12th to clear IIT JEE.

Now, after 2006 the concept became popular, may be due to giving popularity by the coaching institute administrators or by the parents who wants their child to be an IITian, but likes to reduce pressure from them. Anyhow, here I’m going to discuss, whether correct time to start the preparation for IIT should start when the aspirant is in 9th standard only.

As far as the positive side is concerned, I see only one benefit, you get much more time to go through every portion of the syllabus. However, I would like to look through all the negative features too.

Self-level is Low

When you have just entered the 9th standard, your level is not adequate to grasp concepts of 11th standard. Even if you are one of the brightest student, it is not going to be easy to understand the concepts of 11th std, leave JEE Advanced standards. But, if you could finish at least 9th std syllabus till 8th. Then, you could think to cover 10th syllabus within months in 9th, say 4 months. Afterwards, study for a year for JEE Advanced. Then, once again start the preparation of 10th, 6 months prior to 10th board. The syllabus of 9th is based on 8th; 10th on 9th; 11th, 12th on 9th & 10th and finally of JEE Advanced on 11th & 12th. It is not a course of the meal which could be ate in any order or a could even be skipped.

First Big Hurdle of Life

Ask any student in school, their first dream in life is to appear and get good marks in 10th board. It is a very important step in life. Many students first time in their life compete with thousands of others in one go. A lot depends on its marks. Before 10th the competition always lies within the boundaries of the school. Those who are ambitious knows the level of their competitor within school. But, 10th board place you with unknown competitors in unknown quantity. Most of the student fear a lot from 10th board than 12th board or any other examinations ahead.

The nervousness for such an important exam is well known. Everything should be perfect and flawless. Hence, it is not easy to divert the concentration and mind from such an important goal.

Young Age

At the age of 13 or 14, a boy is at a very young age to foresee and plan their future. The fun of life will vanish from the life of young kids once they go through the tough preparation of JEE Advanced. They are not matured to take decisions or make strategies. A proper time table with perfect strategy is to be drawn before commencing such preparation.

A Good Counselor

You need a very good counselor who could guide and coach you personally. The steps to be taken needs professional touch with knowledge and understanding of each and every portion of both JEE and 10th.

My Suggestions

If you have decided that you are going to become engineer from a premier institute in India and you can sacrifice your time and can manage the stiff time table. I’m not going to stop you, as “Only Brave Wins the Race”. Success needs talent, aim, dedication, sacrifice, hard work and strategy. Luck could be a factor, but its role could be minimized. I’m going to give a plan of action in detail which would give you an edge over those who are going to start the preparation of JEE Advanced after 10th. I am assuming:

  • You have just gone to 9th std.
  • You are going to attend all the classes in your school.
  • You have 2 years in hand before 10th board.
  • Apart from school you are going to get 6-8 hours of time for self-study. Devote 1-2 to hours at max for school home work. Rest for this plan, min 5 hours.
  • You will get 6 hours of sleep on weekdays and 8-9 on weekend.
  • You are relying on self-study not on coaching or tuition.
  • You are brave and ready to take the pressure. Also, you should be ready to sacrifice fun for study.

If you have any doubts about any of these ask me.

Step 1: Clear 9th and 10th Syllabus

This step is going to be of 5-6 months. In this step, you will cover the syllabus of 9th, then 10th both for Physics, Chemistry and Maths. As I have already said you can’t skip syllabus of any class and look ahead. You have to wrap up the syllabus as fast as you can. Remember, the syllabus would be completed in school too in a span of two years. So, you would get an edge their, which may help you perform better in term exams. Choose the same books which are followed in school. For numerical problems, you should solve each one of them carefully. For conceptual topics, don’t try to mug up concepts, but rather try to give answers to every questions asked at the end of the chapter.

If you could find a senior who could clear your doubts, it would be very good. Discuss the doubts once in every week, preferably on weekend. It would be very good if senior is in 11th or 12th preparing for JEE Advanced. During this step you have to know more and more about the pattern of JEE Advanced. A lot of students fail in clearing JEE Advanced as they spend time in wrong direction misguidedly. The more you know about it, the better it is going to be. You can also read more about JEE on internet.

If you have a group who are also preparing for JEE, discuss with them the topics and understandings. Min. 5 hours each day would be sufficient. If a term exam comes in between, take one week break before term exam and resume after the exam. Your objective here in this step is to cover the concept of 9th and 10th rather than passing 10th board based on it.

Step 2: Get Closer to JEE Level

You must be knowing that the level of JEE Advanced is higher than 12th level. You are not going to study till JEE level before 10th. It should be done after 10th. However, before passing 10th, I would like you to cover as much 11th and 12th syllabus as much as you can. The step should be stopped 6 months prior to your 10th board to give sufficient time for your board exam. You need books followed in 11th and 12th for Physics, Chemistry and Maths for this step. I would not suggest any book. Better to consult any of your senior for the purpose. But, it is important that the book should be for 11th and 12th rather than for JEE Advanced.

Approach for JEE is quite different from 10th. There are not going to be conceptual questions, like explain the extraction of H2SO4 with design of apparatus or What is a magnetic field. It would be all numerical based, except in Organic and Inorganic Chemistry (Chemistry has three parts after 11th; Physical, Organic and Inorganic; Google it to know more). All the questions would be solved based on some information given and concepts you know. Like

  • 2H2 + O2 = ?,
  • Ken is the star of the cross-country team. During a recent morning run, Ken averaged a speed of 5.8 m/s for 12.9 minutes. Ken then averaged a speed of 6.10 m/s for 7.1 minutes. Determine the total distance which Ken ran during his 20 minute jog.

One by one cover the books of 11th and 12th by solving all the problems. No need to solve JEE level problem at this stage. I think the time would be sufficient and you would be able to cover the syllabus of both 11th and 12th within 8-9 months. For the next 3-4 months, go for revision. Once you are reading books of 11th and 12th. Many a times you would feel the lessons at school to be boring and of low level. But, don’t bunk the school. It is going to be helpful to get acquainted with activity at school and to have some fun time.

After this step, you would be well-versed with syllabus of 11th and 12th. Also, you could join a good coaching for JEE Advanced right after appearing for 10th board. You will definitely understand the advance concepts very easily. 

Step 3: Getting ready for 10th Board

In around October, you should start giving full attention towards the approaching 10th board exam, which normally takes placein March. As you have already covered the syllabus till 12th, you would feel very comfortable with 10th syllabus. Make a good strategy and time table and give full concentration towards secondary examination. Forget about IIT, JEE and its syllabus for next 6 -7 months.

After giving your 10th board, you have both the option to go for a good coaching or do self study. If you are going for self study, start from Step 2 in the article How to prepare for IIT JEE?

I’m open for suggestions and discussions. If you like to share something it would be very nice. You can also share your experience with other aspirants. If you have a doubt better to share with everyone, than just me via a personalized email. As it might help others too. Have a nice day.

If you like the above article, I’m giving links for articles written on similar topic by me:

  1. How Good Are The New IITs
  2. Good College or Good Branch
  3. JEE: Should I Take A Drop?
  4. How to Prepare for JEE Mains After Appearing for 12th Board
  5. Most Suitable Date for JEE (Main) Online Test
  6. New Pattern: What is JEE?
  7. IIT JEE: What should be Strategy for Partial Droppers?
  8. How to Prepare for IIT JEE?
  9. Kota: Paradise for IIT JEE Aspirants
  10. Role of Coachings in IIT JEE selection
  11. Hopes Beyond IIT
  12. IIT JEE: What should be the strategy for repeaters?